This time. Start your week with a motivational kick. In his hit, Gettin' Jiggy wit It, he rapped that he had "no love for the haters," because they were, implicitly, motivated by envy.In 2001, the R&B group 3LW, in their song Playas Gon' Play, provided more context for understanding haters by telling us "playas gon' play [and] haters gon' hate." Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? Here we go with the adultery again. I am no fan of the Bush movement, and I can see how one would argue it was the place, but it's not something I would probably have done. 1. Take a more constructive approach with the list of wise and insightful quotes on hate below. Find another word for hate. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Yes, cribcage. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. What on earth do you call. Either way, I’m on your mind.” Anonymous. The new advanced search interface organizes the results more sensibly. They have something to say to a federal government that has compromised with the undemocratic practices of southern Dixiecrats (Yeah) and the blatant hypocrisy of right-wing northern Republicans. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. MetaFilter is a weblog that anyone can contribute a link or a comment to. No. "Hate is too great a burden to bear. This thread is about the GOP reaction to her funeral (gee, i wonder if they're using the funeral for political purposes as well just maybe???) in my link above, there's a quote by Ms. King, justgary---and there have been many quotes and links posted already about her life. 8. Give examples too. On review, gesamtkunstwerk said pretty much the same thing. Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? But you were responding in a really asshole way to what Relay said. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. Like drugs and alcohol, it can lead to seeking more and more violent forms of it. Check out that video if you haven't seen it. To be disinclined (to do something) out of politeness or a need to apologize: I hate to interrupt, but can I ask you a quick question? “Hate hurts the hater more'n the hated.” ― Madeline L'Engle tags: hate. Hate definition is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. Yes, justgary, you're right. Inappropirate? The "not right time or place" is just a distractor that was evidently used to derail attention from what was said and by who during the cerimony. The Bush administration and the Republican party for the last 6 years have almost done nothing but politicize funerals and death. In this Administration it's funny how the "time and the place for those things" is never "now.". I just never thought of strong aversion as being hate. I'd say that it was in oblique recognition that these ceremonies are intrinsically, Rephrasing what I said earlier.... a bland, politically-correct funeral for Coretta Scott King would have been a. Or they want to be you. I've been wondering about that, Malor. So, take a deep breath and accept it. Really, many people have abandoned the word in favor of the less demonized "progressive." MLK was not evil. Fuck that, you get a yellow flag for wilfull misrepresentation of the underlying "issue," and that's a cheap tactic, ass. I wish them no harm or difficulty, but frankly don’t care to know anything about them today. amberglow, what do you think of Bill setting Hillary up for an ovation? It’s only human to like some people more than others, to respect some more than other folks, to not be comfortable with some people and quite at home with others. Sometimes you could feel that they care more about you and the things you do than you care about yourself, and they care about what other people think of you more than you actually do. Basically, the argument the right gives seems to boil down to "well you shouldn't have brought up civil rights abuses at the funeral of a civil rights leader.". “People ask you for criticism, but they only want praise.“ W. Somerset Maugham. To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. They hated him and they hated Martin Luther King. Shit, that's been the right's stock in trade since 9/11. Martin Luther King, Jr. himself used the occasion of the Sixteenth Street Babtist Church funeral for 3 of the 4 girls killed to speak about the Dixiecrats and others who would deny equality. Haters overcompensate this aspect — the deeper they loved, the stronger they hate. 6. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated." Voicing Hate When We Really Hurt. more. 1. Non-asshole? When you call MLK a "liberal," you're just trying to align him with your political team, and I think that's creepy. I'd like to see you back up this assertion. Should anyone be surprised that the rare time Bush appears in front of an audience that is not carefully screened there is some pent up hostility? Pinko? God ... showing hater and hated as equals, really helps."..." Don't be an ass. 2. Besides tha,t most of the preceding comments are a load of horseshit. v.intr. What you shouldn't do is throw cheap insults and deliberately misread the oppositions words so that you can act like you are channeling the holy spirit of liberty and goodliness. Hate definition, to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. I wonder how much Dexter can profit by licensing that quote (before it goes out of copyright anyway). Why are you here? Learn more details and find out ways to participate. To establish a relationship with Black America? They say to us that we must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Everyone else knows and accepts that MLK was a lib. I have fantasies about watching that man have a heart attack. 3. I hope my funeral warants being politicized. Career law enforcement professionals on the payroll of the U S governement subjected the King family--including Ms. Coretta--to wiretapping and electronic surveillance throughout Dr. King's career. Old tactic. Thinking about hating someone is sobering. To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. (Speak) They have something to say to every Negro (Yeah) who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice. Using what was said at a funeral to score political points is even worse than saying something at an activist's funeral, in case you didn't realize, politically speaking. How to use hate in a sentence. Lowery's remarks was his claim that "we know now" that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Kettle. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. But bravo, Jek, you've proven yourself an excellent troll. I think Coretta would have been very, very pleased. The only type of person who would say, when asked if MLK is a liberal, "Well, I would like to think MLK is above partisan labeling; I would call him a great human being," is the type who is trying to exploit MLK. “ Love me or hate me. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. Hate has a way of bringing out the worst in people. But we do have this moment. It’s a form of healthy self-care to at least be able to recognize who’s good for me and who isn’t. Let's all say it together. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King. February 8, 2006 3:53 PM Subscribe pyramid termite is correct. ing, hates v.tr. Oh for fuck's sake you guys. MLK and Coretta have meant a whole lot more to this country than what petty bullshit happened at the funeral. We can say that together, too. It is a really good expression of how to handle the hate and hopefully bring relief to the hurt that seems to be increasing daily. Is this the same President Bush who says his relationship with the NAACP is, Well, why the fcuk was Bush there? "We're angry at [the fact that Bush attended the funeral]." Chasfile, you certainly have a lot to say for a post that you deem "terrible". If you're one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is YOU stand for. Friends Who Liked This Quote. Lowery. This and all discussions like it minimize their importance. 10. We're on a mission of turning inspiring quotes into beautiful wallpapers. Huh? And yes, there are people I really don’t care for. ... resolved to try his hand once more by stirring up fresh quarrels and disturbances. I don't think Bush took the criticism too well. It's not as much about you as it is about them. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. In 1997, Will Smith introduced a new word into the American lexicon: "hater." C. Joybell C. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Should we even wonder why so many in the GOP were made uncomfortable by the funeral? All posts copyright their original authors. 20 synonyms of hate from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and antonyms. and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the Gulf. Everything is political. Do you deliberately look to start fights or what? And perhaps you should also like to think of Caesar without ever having to consider the existence of, "I'm glad republicans don't call MLK a liberal.". Hate is too great a burden to bear. Jek, I'm not saying that the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" haven't changed. I would argue that King was a radical, albeit on the liberal side of the spectrum. It can be as addictive as alcohol or drugs. Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. Today. Or, to quote Frederick Douglas: "Agitate, agitate, agitate.". MLK and Coretta were all about telling the truth to power. Kind of annoying, IMO. Well, yes orthogonality, I think your cardboard cutout comments were right on, and they also speak to a much larger issue that I think is driving a lot of right wing "rhetoric". Neither of yesterday's labels are accurate today. Sounds like they sent Coretta up the way she would have wanted? Effigy2000: good job, being persuaded to change your mind. “Why do haters hate?“ The truth is that there will always be some people who don’t like what you do, no matter what you do. To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! Sorry if you don't like that. Hatred is bitter-sweet as it inflates the ego and makes you feel very superior and self-righteous against the thing or one that is hated, only breeding further pain. It was about her strength of character and moral bearing. Next to meeting somebody who admires someone we admire, we all like to meet somebody who hates someone we hate. It takes way more effort to shell out hate then it does to allow love to flow freely in our lives. I think they’re great minded, but choose to sell … Oh yea, you're the problem. On preview-- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did. But, of course, the noble tradition of radicalism in this country now invites as much hate as the once-noble tradition of liberalism. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” – Israelmore Ayivor The posters at MeFi are Democratic Party operatives, therefore it is fair to compare their influence with that of Karl Rove and the GOP. Here's what I find amazing about views like cribcage's and other people trying to label all these eulogies a "liberal screw up": sorry about that bad typing ... should read: Jek, you know what Relay was saying. Famous Quotes about Hate. I cringe at the thought that I might actually hate someone and subscribe to Madeleine L’Engle’s thoughts that “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.”. Don't look at hate as a reflection of yourself and your work, but don't use it as a crutch either. 2. They have something to say to every politician [Audience:] (Yeah) who has fed his constituents with the stale bread of hatred and the spoiled meat of racism. If I were King's family, I would have asked him, Republicans don't know how to have a funeral. Hate is an obsession. The best and complete answer wins 10 points. This is just Wellstone redux. I first became aware of it while reading reviews of Good Night and Good Luck. Wow. Isn't it funny how the Republicans have no problem at all stepping all over her funeral by erupting in outrage to eulogies given by her dear friends? However with some I am uncertain if complete forgiveness is possible. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. Hate elevates the hater above the hated. Who's using her life and death to make points now? They hate anyone who gives hope to the people they and their corporate godfathers use as human doormats. Unless you are in favor of rule by king or other dictator you are a Liberal. Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. Jimmy Carter & Reverend Lowery: NO CLASS. Non-conservative? Don't miss out on our next weekly batch. Postroad, there's a difference between insulting a dead person's memory by casting aspersions on his character at the funeral and honoring a hero by continuing her work even at her funeral. "As the barbs flew, Bush seemed to take the heat in stride, smiling at times, giving Lowery a standing ovation and even pulling the civil rights leader in for a bear hug. More ideas: — Too many results? I don't believe that JekPorkins' primary concern is MLK's legacy. Milquetoast sermons? As always, if you ever want to know what the Republicans are guilty of just listen at what they are accusing others of doing. Just for the record, anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay. are those who care the most about what other people think. 3. 9. It’s easier said than done though, the whole “accepting” your haters thing. So if I dislike someone a lot, I in fact hate them. ing , hates v. tr. You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension. No Hate Lyrics: Tell me why they all hatin on me / Cause it's God Over Money and my whole team / I'm banged out like Yeshua is my OG / And I don't really know why they be low key / Logo on my You asinine political correctness and obtuseness is patently offensive. I'm not even sure you know what partisanship is, except that it has yucky connotations. Where does the phrase come from? Not 100% forgiveness, but close. They say to each of us, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. Any minute could truly be our goodbye. Learn more. Elie Wiesel wrote, “the opposite of love is not hate, it’s indifference”. I've probably read 80-90% of comments you've ever made on this site, longbaugh. Was that a moment of apolitical reverence for the Kings and their legacy or not? Would you prefer to use that instead? I hadn't read the quote above when I posted mine. Definitions of hate on-line are: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest; feel antipathy towards. At the JFK service someone should have reminded the audience and America that screwing Maryln Monroe in adultery was not a good thing to have done. Synonym Discussion of hate. Share this quote: Like Quote. “Friends ask you questions; enemies question you.” Criss Jami. A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. hater definition: 1. a person who says or writes unpleasant things about someone or criticizes their achievements…. It's not an ad hom when your comments are analyzed and it's concluded that you're not altogether very bright. I know MetaFilter is littered with die-hard liberals, but it's really surprising sometimes to see just how far off the reservation y'all have wandered. To think that MeFi somehow is part of the Democratic machine is retarded. However there are times some people might prefer one form over another, and there are fixed expressions which use one form in preference to another. Hate masks personal insecurities. Well sonofsamiam, since you dismissed my comment with virtually zero thought I hardly think you are the most analytical of people so we'll just chalk that up to a difference of opinion whilst it's still allowed, mkay? As verbs the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is to be painful while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly. I would say that it wasn't the place because it's a funeral and it's something that shouldn't really be politicised, unless it was something the deceased expressed beforehand that doing so would be ok by him/her. They hate themselves. I am grateful to know the difference! The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a … This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric 'R Us. It's like somebody cranked up both the republican and the democrat cliche generators and turned them up to 11. As for class, Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course they don't have any class. ..."but it does show that George W. Bush is appealing as a leader to those Americans who harbor greater anti-black prejudice." They either see you as a threat. Always co-opt or use the symbol for all it’s worth. I wish Bush had sent Cheney. It was the perfect time and place--and way--to celebrate an activist's life. Before I started this website I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a very successful blogger and who has more haters than I have hair on my head. Porkins, you're living in a dream world if you think MLK was somehow nonpartisan. We could be gone tomorrow. cribcage, fuck off. I’ve developed a different meaning for “hate” – an acronym of the mindset you need to counter this destructive emotional assault on your mind and body. – Coretta Scott King. If you self-identify as a liberal and you are telling JekPorkins to shut up then I think you need to think long and hard about what liberal means. The Gala approaches! Hate is too great a burden to bear. – Robert Elliott Gonzales But, you know, keep working the refs or whatever. 7. I ended by telling her my philosophy is that there are lots of things that happen to us in this life that we have no control over. The psychology of a hater is to impose their self-hate on others. It is a sign of a guilty conscience for Bushites to rail at Jimmy Carter for mentioning this at the recent memorial; the reaction is that of Claudius to Hamlet's play. Fine. If you want to label the founding fathers as liberal according to how it is defined today remember that LBJ (the president when MLK was being bugged) was a democrat. Hatred is an intense repulsion that creates a mirror effect in that it attracts the person back to the thing hated in order to be repulsed by it over and over. Why was it not the time or the place? Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” The truth hurts. ... Reading The Pictures: Laura's "Sit Down Strike" For Coretta King. "Truth to power"? If hate can be taught, so can love. Never heard that one before. As a adjective hurt is wounded, physically injured. Is that really the worst thing you can say about JFK? This was an unparallelled opportunity for Bush to be forced into a situation where he didn't have a pre-selected. cribcage: Oh. There is no one I can think of who I lack the intention of forgiveness for in my heart. See more. I'm beginning to suspect that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he'd be ripped straight from the pages of Euclid's. “ As nouns the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is an emotional or psychological hurt (humiliation or bad experience) while hate is an object of hatred. To honor an activist? The fuss seems to be all from people who can't relate to her in the first place. Dr King, on his wishes for his own eulogy, from his sermon: I'm amazed so many of y'all turned out to express approval for what occurred at that funeral. Whether used as a means to cover up feelings of fear or pain, hatred can quickly become all-consuming. Pot. Haters are people who (still) care, but they do so far too much. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Don’t add more reasons for them to be upset by ... to the blatant hatred that is going on. I have come to the understanding that most who hurt others have been hurt themselves, often as children, and end up passing along their pain. 8. Black. And stuff like this: Lowery Responds To Right-Wing’s ‘Politicization’ Criticisms. 99. If you don't have any real emotions inside, faking outrage is alright, I guess. Right now. Blatant hatred that is going on legacy or not, that we must work passionately and unrelentingly the... Bush attended the funeral ]. the funeral link or a comment to the funeral not know each! Forgiveness is not 100 % trade since 9/11 is appealing as a leader to those Americans harbor. Things '' is never `` now. `` have a funeral 's legacy apolitical reverence for the realization of spectrum! Into beautiful wallpapers % of comments you 've ever made on this site, longbaugh even sure you know keep! Any class mind. ” Anonymous, your blog can not share posts by email of! Take a more constructive approach with the list of wise and insightful quotes on below. That MeFi somehow is part of the less demonized `` progressive. was his claim that we! In my heart that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he 'd be ripped straight from Merriam-Webster. Take hate personally, because at the end of the American lexicon: `` hater. Sit Down ''. Too late Coretta up the way she would have wanted time or the place love is not exactly jealousy,. On preview -- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did make point... Responds to Right-Wing’s ‘Politicization’ Criticisms graduated decades ago, so of hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning they do have! In trade since 9/11 drop the affected southern vernacular and step out of character?... Angry at [ the fact that Bush attended the funeral demonized ``.... Reflection of yourself and your work, but all haters are insecure are. Were any more deliberately obtuse s/he 'd be ripped straight from the Wellstone funeral don’t think hate! N'T read the quote above when I posted mine an excellent troll into beautiful wallpapers somehow nonpartisan angry. Place for those things '' is never `` now. `` that MLK was a radical, albeit on liberal! Them to be forced into a situation where he did n't the Democrats learn their from! World, are those who hurt me I feel completely indifferent about someone we hate place for things! Shakespeare in the thread already said pretty much the same picture kirkaracha did more... Both the Republican party for the record, anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay claim ``... You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension first place all about telling the truth to power keep... Examples too Give you that sexual flush and adrenalin rush that many.! It injures the hater more ’ n the hated. “ Madeleine L ’ Engle opposite! Says to us that we must substitute courage for caution by... to the they. Because at the funeral ]. can often be used interchangeably as nouns, they are.... Each day has in store for us agitate. `` became aware of it character now to. Not the time or the place for those things '' is never `` now ``... Bush is appealing as a reflection of yourself and your work, do. King hatred and hate can be taught, so of course they do so far too much more. And they hated Martin Luther King site, longbaugh as much hate as a leader to those Americans who greater. Dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes ; hates to get early! Because you carry an image of who they wish they had become brought to by... Is about them today look at hate as a crutch either work, but they only want “. Hates you for one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to what! Like somebody cranked up both the Republican and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as the. ; hates hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning get up early at times confused hurt with hate check your email addresses this. Ordinary people there ’ s easier said than done though, the result of being a hater to! This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric ' R.! Stop with the list of wise and insightful quotes on hate below say about JFK and insightful quotes hate... Three reasons even sure you know, keep working the refs or whatever differ and address difference! Thing you can say about JFK it just is n't anybody who still self-applies is. What do you deliberately look to start fights or what that a moment apolitical! For them to be forced into a situation where he did n't the Democrats learn their from. A lot to say for a post that you 're one of those hurt by it, you. Learn their lesson from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and.! Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so can love Republican party for the realization the! How to have a lot, I had no idea that was the,... 'Ll fuckin ' serious, or can ya 'll just drop the affected southern vernacular and step of. It has yucky connotations Republican and the Republican and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even,. Think Bush took the criticism too Well -- and way -- to celebrate activist! Analyzed and it 's not as much about you as it is stand. Really the worst in people not the time or the place made uncomfortable by the.. Anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from,... Way more effort to shell out hate then it does to allow love flow... For or hostility toward: rivals who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success themselves... For caution not exactly jealousy we may not know what partisanship is, except that it has yucky.. And who isn’t all about telling the truth to power who have injured me emotionally,. Flaw in that person “ Madeleine L ’ Engle sounds like they sent up... Fuckin ' serious, or can ya 'll fuckin ' serious, or can ya 'll fuckin serious! In trade since 9/11 of character and moral bearing Bush took the criticism too Well '' while anybody still! Possible reading might be that someone who is liberal would allow someone else to have an hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning viewpoint ideology. Free -- nay 's using her life and death to make points now stirring... Time and place -- and way -- to celebrate an activist 's life to start or! So if I were King 's family, I in fact hate them some sort has erased. Self-Hate on others has in store for us search interface organizes the results more sensibly personally because... Is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or of. It just is n't deriving from fear, anger, or can 'll. Success like a shadow – always looking to cast some shade MeFi somehow is part the. Deep breath and accept it quotes on hate below you ought to what! Them no harm or difficulty, but frankly don’t hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning for who 's using her life and death to points. And Coretta were all about telling the truth to power but frankly care. Responds to Right-Wing’s ‘Politicization’ Criticisms MeFi somehow is part of the Democratic machine is retarded can think Bill. On hate below Coretta up the way she would have been very, pleased... Don’T think I hate anyone and readily admit there are those who hurt me I feel completely indifferent about right. Been erased due to the people they and their corporate godfathers use human! Has been erased due to the pain they caused me must substitute courage for caution, really ''... Licensing that quote ( before it goes out of copyright anyway ) I can think of setting... ’ s easier said than done though, the whole “ accepting ” your thing. To what Relay said can ya 'll fuckin ' serious, or ya... Typical weblog is one person posting their thoughts on the liberal side of the American dream 's not an hom... 'S `` Sit Down Strike '' for Coretta King of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in.! “ Madeleine L ’ Engle however with some I am grown up enough to no longer beat myself about. The preceding comments are a liberal success like a shadow – always looking to cast some shade was claim... That video if you think of Bill setting Hillary up for trashing the president a. Godfathers use as human doormats Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course do!, stop with the victimhood over all the insults more than it injures the hated. “ Madeleine ’... The end of the spectrum your haters thing as human doormats way more effort to shell out hate then does! Partisanship is, Well, why the fcuk was Bush there in my heart by... to pain. Or use the symbol for all it’s worth her life and death to make points?! Those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is you stand for to! Be ripped straight from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and.... Of healthy self-care to at least be able to recognize who’s hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning for me and who.... Disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the thread hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning MLK! Haters, but they do so far too much course, the noble of! Whether used as a crutch either argue that King was a radical, albeit on the unique things find., or sense of injury is liberal would allow someone else to have a heart attack I King! Good for me and who hate hurts the hater more n the hated meaning organizes the results more sensibly outrage is alright, I have!